Authenticity Problem
Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus
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Authenticity Problem
Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus
Oh damn! I owe you a sincere apology.
I'm used to avoid AI slop, and my reaction to the image 1 was “AI gen”. I even closed the image, and then saw the title “Authenticity Problem,” it made me doubt myself. I reopened the image, read the comic, and then watched the timelapse, which confirmed that it was indeed your work and not AI.
And now I can’t even imagine what it must be like for you. Hang in there, and great work despite everything!
And again, sorry! Apparently, I'm biased
@FogRyu Hey, thank you for the feedback, and for doing the extra effort of double checking 
On the contrary. Thanks to you! It made me wonder how many images I’ve quickly closed just because they were “AI,” when they actually weren’t...
And on top of that, it seems you’re a FOSS advocate and a Krita user (and maybe Blender, if I understand correctly).
So clearly, I would have missed out on an opportunity, especially since I’m trying again to get into Krita, among other foss.
Et aparemment vous êtes français en plus. Haha.
@FogRyu Oui, de Montauban 😊 Et oui, j'ai un passé un peu chargé avec la Blender Fondation ; avec quelques participations à leurs court métrage, et j'ai bien suivi les 15 dernières années de Krita, d'assez prêt. Merci de découvrir mon travail.
@davidrevoy This is one of the things about AI generated art that many people don't think about... it's that *psychologically* speaking, regardless of whether we use AI or not, we're all now in a state of constantly questioning whether something is authentic or not.
This is an incredibly erosive precedent to be set for human culture. We live in truly dangerous times.
@davidrevoy that reminds me of a story you told us recently… 🤔
@davidrevoy
Bonjour David,
Merci pour ce que tu partages, cela illumine mes journées 👍
Je compatis et suis dépité d'être impuissant.
@davidrevoy Forget the style it's even the characters I looked your name up and somebody trained a model specifically for Pepper 
@davidrevoy Sadly there are not much we can do to verify if content has been created by human people or not.
Fortunately, many people don't care about that.
Unfortunately, I care about it so... I'm sorry if I have got wrong identifying an AI work and I've not treated it as good as deserved.
@davidrevoy I think it's just something people struggle with, they will make deranged statements in pursuit of trying to seem like they're still on top of things.
I know it's easy to say, but don't take it personally, I've always been a fan of both your art and your open source tooling/process.
This stuff is one reason I'm really happy the EU is requiring AI involvement to be labeled as such; it works both ways, and hopefully other countries/areas will follow, so we can put an end to this.
Ceci n'est pas une IA.
This is so sad and true 😟
@davidrevoy You are one of the first people I followed on mastodon and feels so nice to see your post getting so much love. I have no idea what it can be like doing what you do in these times. All I can do is join here and share this from behind a smile, a feeling of empathy to a "stranger" I have a feeling I know and tell you that I look forward to your posts. Especially now after this one.
Cheers
@davidrevoy this literally made me cry
@miawinter Oh no. Sorry! 🫂
@davidrevoy I've been out painting in plein aire and had people ask me if I was actually painting.
@davidrevoy
C'est sur aussi si tu ne met pas un certificat d'authenticité sans IA comment tu veux qu'on sache 😁
🤗
@davidrevoy Great work as always. Also, I'm in pain now.
@davidrevoy I hate that I myself sometimes see genuine art and have doubts that it's AI. I guess it makes me pay more attention to the artist behind the art I see which is good.
Now that "looking like good art" is something that AI can do, paying attention to what it's conveying and who's making it is more important than ever.
I'll take community over mindless consumption any time
But their is always souls in your work !
The issue with other platform is that people expect ai stuff, they want to see ai stuff and it must look like ai. When they say "it's ai, right" it's not because they don't value your work but because they want to know that they can make a prompt and do the same.
I could be completely wrong, but why stay on such places if they don't want ai crap ?
@davidrevoy I love it so much!
A lot of real human #artists and #creatives will find themselves in it.
@davidrevoy On one hand, we know AI in general has a bias for yellow because yellowish images have a higher tendency of getting marked as "good looking" because of the "golden hour" in photography.
On the other, true, while AI hurts artists, due to that, even more for those who like yellow tones! 
@davidrevoy uncannily, those panels look a lot like AI as well. nice work.
@davidrevoy Ah, yes, one of the most frustraing consequences of this inflation of genAI bubble is how people are giving in to a tendency that anything slightly competent can only have been made by a computer
People are getting a bit too complacent about being stupid as hell
@davidrevoy
Coworker: "You write like AI"
Me, a writer: "Bitch"
@davidrevoy
I've seen this happen to so many artists and writers now... I want to burn down every "AI" datacenter and make the tech bros live in the burnt out remains with nothing but the ashes of their computers to eat.
Thanks for the support! Funny thing I wanted to plug here: I've never received comments like that here on the Fediverse
, but I get dozens of them, weekly, on the Meta platforms (Facebook/Instagram)...
I'm really grateful for how this community checks artists' work and actually verifies it's real human art before throwing random accusations.
This is my favorite place to share for a reason. 💜
@davidrevoy Your art is amazing, your local-first process is commendable, your wherewithal is admirable, and your address of the state of things is spot on!
Absolutely love your stuff. I love that the lack of algorithm in the fediverse doesn't bubble up "engagement" for you, and that you know you're really valued!
I mean, by me.. Whoever I am.. BUT STILL! Love your work!
@davidrevoy we love your work!! and we are happy to have you here
@davidrevoy always happy to support ai artists! (Please don't kill me that was a joke!)
@davidrevoy je ne me suis jamais posé la question parce que je connais ton travail depuis des années. Aucune idée de si je me la poserais si je le découvrais aujourd'hui 😐 Ceci dit, j'essaye toujours de faire bien gaffe avant de dire que quelque chose me semble fait par IA, et je mets les formes possibles quand j'ai un doute.
@davidrevoy Also I ran out of characters, but really good comic. Glad to see Cepper and Parrot again (Not that the other comics were bad of course I just like the Cepper and Parrot series).
@davidrevoy I mean I would HOPE people would need a real smoking gun to say that YOUR art is AI. I mean a lot of MFT is Anti-AI, so that would be random if it was made with AI.
Either way it's usually better to question, but not accuse when it comes to AI I think. Unless it is very much egregiously AI than it's better not to just throw accusations.
At least in this comic the vibe I get is just wanting to be a critic and not actually appreciating art though.
@VANTABlack2000 @davidrevoy I'd have figured the timelapse videos would confirm it was made by fleshy human grippers.
@davidrevoy I know this one is personal for you. That has to really feel like a punch in the gut.
@davidrevoy sendng love and support ! <3
@davidrevoy "Love your yellows"! 😆
@davidrevoy could you do the painting as a wallpaper or something?
@ghosttie Her fictive painting? The largest resolution I have for this color sketch is https://www.peppercarrot.com/extras/temp/2026-08-04_gothic-sorceress-fictive-painting.jpg