Authenticity Problem
Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus
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Authenticity Problem
Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus
Thanks for the support! Funny thing I wanted to plug here: I've never received comments like that here on the Fediverse
, but I get dozens of them, weekly, on the Meta platforms (Facebook/Instagram)...
I'm really grateful for how this community checks artists' work and actually verifies it's real human art before throwing random accusations.
This is my favorite place to share for a reason. 💜
@davidrevoy
I really like your artistic style.
Also: If someone sees your "making of" videos and all the Krita videos then it is quite hard to think that your stuff could be AI.
@dagaz Thank you. Maybe I should make also other type of content: reboot my livestreams, post more short videos of drawing on paper, etc...
@davidrevoy
If you think that would help for haters... 🤷
I have my doubts. It's not just the drawing. Just getting a grasp of modern problems mixed with fantasy RPG theme is totally creative for me. Those who ignore all of that now will most likely do so regardeless later on. I think many just see boosted strips and not the other stuff.
I also like the other stuff an forwarded some of your videos to a friend (@KathyKahner). She mostly draws with good old tools like pen&paper. So I thought it might come in handy for her (maybe some time in the future) to get a glimpse of what someone could do with Krita.
Although I suck at drawing (i'm in awe of your skills!), I am still fascinated about the workflow in digital Art.
(But most of all I really like this #miniFantasyTheater strips.)
@davidrevoy I mean I would HOPE people would need a real smoking gun to say that YOUR art is AI. I mean a lot of MFT is Anti-AI, so that would be random if it was made with AI.
Either way it's usually better to question, but not accuse when it comes to AI I think. Unless it is very much egregiously AI than it's better not to just throw accusations.
At least in this comic the vibe I get is just wanting to be a critic and not actually appreciating art though.
@VANTABlack2000 @davidrevoy I'd have figured the timelapse videos would confirm it was made by fleshy human grippers.
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org En même temps, les plateformes de chez Meta mettent au maximum en avant le contenu IA pour essayer de rentabiliser leurs horreurs, les utilisateurs se font bombarder de contenu synthétique... ils doivent être un peu rincés de tout ça.
Ici, tu postes un contenu IA, t'as la Fedi-police qui défonce ta porte d'entrée avec un bélier (un bélier furry, hein, faut pas oublier qu'on est sur le fediverse)
Et tant mieux !
@marud "Un bélier furry" lol 🤣 lol, merci. Ça m'évoque tellement d'images cette métaphore. Faudra un jour que je fasse une BD avec l'armée chaotique et coloré du Fediverse.
@davidrevoy We love you, David, not just because your creative work is awesome, but also because your social ethic is. We simply need more people like you. ❤️ Thanks for your shared labour!
@davidrevoy It must be so frustrating and infuriating. I'm really sorry you have to put up with that.
@davidrevoy i'm so sorry this is based on your true story. But let me ensure you how much I really appreciate your art! 🤗
@davidrevoy I really love your work. Whenever I see a post with it, I know it will make my day better!
At least this one person got it 🫤
This may be the pinnacle of the whole artists getting paid in "exposure" meme. Your art style is literally everywhere, yet what you get out of that is pain 🤬
That may be the difference between an audience of enthusiasts and an audience of consumers.
@davidrevoy you'd have to be an idiot to still be using the Meta platforms as a non-creator*, so it makes sense that so many wouldn't be able to tell the difference between your wonderful work and slop.
* I understand creators and brands need to stay on there for their livelihoods. I wish they didn't, but I wouldn't call artists needing to make a living "idiots."
@davidrevoy Your art is amazing, your local-first process is commendable, your wherewithal is admirable, and your address of the state of things is spot on!
Absolutely love your stuff. I love that the lack of algorithm in the fediverse doesn't bubble up "engagement" for you, and that you know you're really valued!
I mean, by me.. Whoever I am.. BUT STILL! Love your work!
@davidrevoy we love your work!! and we are happy to have you here
@davidrevoy always happy to support ai artists! (Please don't kill me that was a joke!)
@davidrevoy je ne me suis jamais posé la question parce que je connais ton travail depuis des années. Aucune idée de si je me la poserais si je le découvrais aujourd'hui 😐 Ceci dit, j'essaye toujours de faire bien gaffe avant de dire que quelque chose me semble fait par IA, et je mets les formes possibles quand j'ai un doute.
@davidrevoy Also I ran out of characters, but really good comic. Glad to see Cepper and Parrot again (Not that the other comics were bad of course I just like the Cepper and Parrot series).
@davidrevoy could you do the painting as a wallpaper or something?
@ghosttie Her fictive painting? The largest resolution I have for this color sketch is https://www.peppercarrot.com/extras/temp/2026-08-04_gothic-sorceress-fictive-painting.jpg
@davidrevoy @ghosttie omg looks great .. what prompt? /s
I honestly don't think this comic will help with those people. Their brains are probably already mushy enough that they can't see the parallels.
@fullywoolly @ghosttie 😊 Oh, it mainly helps me to speak about it.
Oh damn! I owe you a sincere apology.
I'm used to avoid AI slop, and my reaction to the image 1 was “AI gen”. I even closed the image, and then saw the title “Authenticity Problem,” it made me doubt myself. I reopened the image, read the comic, and then watched the timelapse, which confirmed that it was indeed your work and not AI.
And now I can’t even imagine what it must be like for you. Hang in there, and great work despite everything!
And again, sorry! Apparently, I'm biased
@FogRyu Hey, thank you for the feedback, and for doing the extra effort of double checking 
On the contrary. Thanks to you! It made me wonder how many images I’ve quickly closed just because they were “AI,” when they actually weren’t...
And on top of that, it seems you’re a FOSS advocate and a Krita user (and maybe Blender, if I understand correctly).
So clearly, I would have missed out on an opportunity, especially since I’m trying again to get into Krita, among other foss.
Et aparemment vous êtes français en plus. Haha.
@FogRyu Oui, de Montauban 😊 Et oui, j'ai un passé un peu chargé avec la Blender Fondation ; avec quelques participations à leurs court métrage, et j'ai bien suivi les 15 dernières années de Krita, d'assez prêt. Merci de découvrir mon travail.
@davidrevoy BTW, did you mean to say "Come on!" instead of "common!"? ✨🦜
(Sorry for the parrot, couldn't resist 😁)
@yuki2501 Yes 😊 That was a typo I fixed on the website just a minute after posting here; thank you for noticing and reporting it!
@davidrevoy @yuki2501 I didn't even realize it was a typo, I thought it was “common” as in the style being common
@davidrevoy I saw someone using this comic to defend AI. Like "how can you be so sure it is AI and not the work of a real person? " 😔
@cuauh Yeah... I also saw that. I saw also for my previous comic https://framapiaf.org/@davidrevoy/117004165416826588 , someone using it to speak about immigration 🤮
Well... Sometime an artistic content has its own life in the hand of users; I hope the audience can see and find the source that it is not really the message the author wanted to convey.
@davidrevoy
Do you have a full scale version of the artwork by itself that you could share?
@bassistance If you mean the comic, just check on my website: on the footer I always share a high resolution, the Krita source, the text separated on a transparent PNG or PDF and the comic with just the artworks too.
If it's about the fictive artwork the Gothic Sorceress Cepper is painting on this comic, you'll find it here ☺️ :
@davidrevoy this literally made me cry
@miawinter Oh no. Sorry! 🫂
@davidrevoy sendng love and support ! <3
@davidrevoy I really love how you explained the problem. The fantasy parrot Avian Intelligence is just perfect. Also, your art is gorgeous!
@davidrevoy Love it 😍 Possible typo: "come on" / "c'mon"
@davidrevoy how mych tokens did you spent to generate each frame of those time lapses? Must be more than 10 billion 😬
(Just kidding, keep up the good "actual illustrator" work 💪
Also I wanted to say that my kids loved the pepper & carrot game that was around on Android long time ago)
@davidrevoy based on true story 😂👍
@davidrevoy Thank you, you're "artwork" finally convinced me that there is no hope for bundles of "happiness" like you. I would encourage you to start finding yourself amongus the land marks of Everest, such as green boots. You AI sloop creature.