@dodgycoffee yes they def are accessed via the server for Hytale

the question is more:
- are mods only providing the appearance of client modding with purely server-side processing (SSM—server side modding)
or
- can mods downloaded from the server run in the client space (SSCSM—server sent client side modding)

In my opinion, a combination is best, but im less confident they are doing SSCSM

edit:
old tweets from Slikey:
"We said we don't want client modding but client-local scripts are something we can absolutely support. It would hinge on a very limitted API but absolutely within the realm of possibility and doesn't violate any of our core principles to UGC... As we follow the Unreal Blueprints model, you will be able to create new visual nodes with your own Java Logic and use those nodes in visual scripting easily. All of these things are solved conceptually in Unreal Engine.
The client side visual scripts will be more limited but also just focus on better client prediction and some basic UX improvements which are less critical for now."

im so uncertain about this architecture 😁 it seems like "just trust (wait for?) us to implement visual scripting nodes for extending clienty functionality you need how you need it" 😳

@ambiguous_yelp there always varying degrees with closed source, in the same way some open source projects are anti-user (like Penpot). I agree though open source is generally better, and iirc they want to open source some components. It not all bad, some good news is that they actually are doing native Linux and Mac builds, a game with so many eyes on it not kneeling to Valve/Steam **and** distributing a flatpak is cool to see!

But back to the topic, if you've modded Luanti you might know if it also had the issue. AFAIK it was super dependent on the server processing mods, rather than a combination of that and sending a client mod to bridge the gap the server latency (or just practical issues the limitation) causes. If i read things right, they only recently managed to recognise this issue and try to make their client side modding server sendable and less flakey and disensentivised. Hytale however I suspect might be where Luanti *was* with this issue. 😬