It's so frustrating to look for a #Discord alternative!
I just want decent real-time voice chat for groups, that's it.
There are plenty text messengers out there, that's not the issue, but voice chat seems to be nowhere to be found.
Mumble is not user-friendly. Period.
@lauseta I take that as a compliment.
@nando161 Thanks, but none of these are actually primarily for real-time group voice chat.
@Datenproletarier
> Mumble is not user-friendly
OK, so the server does what you need, but the standard app doesn't work for you (I enjoyed the IRC-like simplicity myself). Have you tried Mumla?
@strypey Thanks, I know about Mumla but I need a desktop client for Linux and Windows.
@Datenproletarier
> Thanks, I know about Mumla but I need a desktop client for Linux and Windows
But do you find the Mumla interface better than the standard Mumble desktop one? What I'm trying to establish here is whether the problem is Mumble/Murmur as a system, or just the available interfaces. As Mumla demonstrates, new apps can be written without rebuilding the whole house from scratch.
If all you need is group voice chat, what about Jitsi Meet, Big Blue Button, Element Call or MiroTalk?
@strypey It's definitely the interface that's my/the issue with Mumble. I will never get any non-nerdy friend to use this Windows 95 looking UI.
And my other issue is that unfortunately none of these alternatives provide the ease of joining a voice chat channel like Discord does: open an app, peek at your server to see whether your friends are online and join with a click if they are.
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@Datenproletarier Are you able and willing to run your own server? Or is your community willing to pay for managed hosting? If so, a @snikket_im server could be worth kicking the tires on. It can do voice/video and group rooms, and although I haven't tested group voice chat, 1:1 voice/video was excellent.
Full disclosure: Years ago I got paid to write copy for the Snikket.org site. But I recommend #Snikket only because it's 100% Free Code, decentralised (XMPP), and cool.
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Snikket is 100% self-hostable, but they run a hosting service, which helps fund dev. If any of your friends don't like the Snikket apps, or there isn't one for their OS yet, they can use any app that supports XMPP, although according to the FAQ they can't guarantee the UX of doing that is a smooth.
@Datenproletarier@chaos.social
call.element.io can be used independently of element itself, stoat has functional (not outstanding or anything but it works) VC
@alexia Thanks, right now it seems to be almost impossible to register at Stoat and selfhosting Stoat with functioning voice caht seems to be no officially supported yet.
But there is hope:
https://github.com/stoatchat/self-hosted/issues/176#issuecomment-3884569333
