I spent many dozens of hours losing track of time in #Ghidra (I swear, it's worse than #Factorio)

Until I had figured out the #CAN message handling, signal parsing and where and when which #DTC codes get set.
With that knowledge I could figure out, slowly but surely, what the #startergenerator needs to run.
Even #FBS4 was pretty trivial to circumvent (a single 1 written to the right memory location via #XCP)

And after implementing the ~25 CAN messages in my STM32 code I finally got this today:

There's still a lot left to do.
I need to implement the #XCP stuff into the STM32 firmware, so it can run the #startergenerator stand-alone.
Stuff like:
- Checking the firmware version on the ECU, so it doesn't poke the wrong memory address
- Reading and parsing the status of the motor
- And actually controlling the motor properly instead of just sending it a hardcoded 1 Nm torque request :D

And then also cleaning it up enough, documenting and testing it thoroughly, so it can be published.

We also did a max RPM test of the #startergenerator using one of @patagona's rescued Pylontech batteries, because the 20A of my 1kW lab PSU weren't enough :D

I set the torque limit to 0.7 Nm (out of 55), no RPM limit and let it rip :D
It reached a peak of 43A (~2kW) at the end of the acceleration, settled at 25A (~1.2kW) and reached a peak RPM of 13400.

It was a bit scary tbh :D
(Not sure if the video accurately captured the sound it made)

(Pylontech thread: https://chaos.social/@patagona/113149877881417810 )

The general control loop is also pretty impressive, the engineers at #Bosch SEG definitely did their job well.

The lowest limit I can set is 6 RPM and it runs buttery smooth.

And it has insane amounts of torque. If you hold the pulley really tightly, it slips out of most strong hands at around 6-7 Nm (as reported via the CAN status messages).

This will be really fun once put into some small vehicle :D

(It can also recuperate really well, but can't run in reverse at all)

#startergenerator

Bought a #Mercedes #48V #MHEV #startergenerator for #reverseengineering.
The specs are impressive, especially for the price point of a few hundred euros.

- 48V / ~200A
- 12.5 kW peak
- 165 Nm peak

The main difficulty lies in finding out the #CAN commands for initialization and control.

I don't have access to a Mercedes E200 EQ Boost (or similar), so "just sniffing" is out.
Maybe somebody could help me with that tho? ^^'

#CANhacking #carhacking #BSG

Also have a bonus video of the #startergenerator spinning up to 4500 RPM under 20 Nm of load without ramp-up.

Also have a bonus video of the #startergenerator spinning up to 4500 RPM under 20 Nm of load without ramp-up.

Because they report voltage, current, torque and RPM (and I trust those values reasonably), I'm able to calculate the kinetic power and electrical power. The difference between those two values should approximate the efficiency of the #startergenerator.
So I quickly threw together a plot of the efficiencies at various RPM and torque levels. Both for the driving and generating mode.
I honestly expected a bit more, but I guess they are more optimized for torque and other factors :D

Finally got to do some dyno runs with the #startergenerator this week.

As I'm able to vary many factors (target drive torque, generating torque, RPM and time), I tested many variations.

tl;dr: They definitely deliver on their 12.5 kW promise, but the stator gets hot quickly, especially at low RPMs and high torque.
I couldn't test the full 55 Nm, only up to 36.6 Nm, as that's the generating limit.

I'm still amazed by the engineering of those things. So much data and protections :D

I've also built a Grafana dashboard for this test setup.
Each #startergenerator is connected to a STM32F072 via CAN which are then connected to the PC via USB serial.
A script then forwards control commands to the STM32s and also receives the telemetry data and publishes them to an InfluxDB.

Here you can see the data of the first video and also a more zoomed out view of the test runs with increasing torque target and slow RPM ramp up.

Because they report voltage, current, torque and RPM (and I trust those values reasonably), I'm able to calculate the kinetic power and electrical power. The difference between those two values should approximate the efficiency of the #startergenerator.
So I quickly threw together a plot of the efficiencies at various RPM and torque levels. Both for the driving and generating mode.
I honestly expected a bit more, but I guess they are more optimized for torque and other factors :D

I've also built a Grafana dashboard for this test setup.
Each #startergenerator is connected to a STM32F072 via CAN which are then connected to the PC via USB serial.
A script then forwards control commands to the STM32s and also receives the telemetry data and publishes them to an InfluxDB.

Here you can see the data of the first video and also a more zoomed out view of the test runs with increasing torque target and slow RPM ramp up.

Finally got to do some dyno runs with the #startergenerator this week.

As I'm able to vary many factors (target drive torque, generating torque, RPM and time), I tested many variations.

tl;dr: They definitely deliver on their 12.5 kW promise, but the stator gets hot quickly, especially at low RPMs and high torque.
I couldn't test the full 55 Nm, only up to 36.6 Nm, as that's the generating limit.

I'm still amazed by the engineering of those things. So much data and protections :D